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    The CultureMap Interview

    Celebrity ‘nerd king’ dishes on greatness of eggs and more cooking science

    Eric Sandler
    Feb 24, 2016 | 3:27 pm

    The "nerd king of Internet cooking" is in Texas this week. J. Kenji López-Alt, author of the bestselling cookbook The Food Lab: Better Home Cooking Through Science, is teaching a series of sold-out cooking classes at Central Market stores in Houston, Austin, and Dallas.

     

    López-Alt's celebrity status stems from the work he's published on the Serious Eats website, where his column takes a scientific look at questions such as whether searing a raw steak "seals in the juices" (it doesn't) and the steps necessary to cook the perfect burger (flip frequently!).

     

    Those recommendations are much, much more are thoroughly documented in The Food Lab, which has been a smash hit since its publication in September. Following in the steps of people like Alton Brown and Mr. Wizard, López-Alt documents not just the hows of better cooking but also the whys. Not a surprising approach, considering López-Alt graduated from MIT and describes himself as "part mad scientist, part cook."

     

    Reviewers have agreed. The New York Times praised the way López-Alt makes "difficult concepts easy to grasp for those of us with a lifelong lack of aptitude for the sciences." Similarly, Epicurious notes that the author understands "the food nerds reading this book almost as much as you understand the way asparagus takes on a melt-in-your-mouth texture at 183°F."

     

    We caught up with López-Alt from his home in California. We chatted about his cookbook's success, why he's teaching an all-breakfast class at Central Market, and his thoughts on whether a hot dog is a sandwich.

     

     CultureMap: Have people responded to the book the way you anticipated?

     

     J. Kenji López-Alt: Yes, but on a much bigger scale. From the type of audience the column has, I knew the types of people who would be interested in the book. I never anticipated it would be as popular as it is. It’s a good kind of shock.

     

    There are some types of people who got interested who I didn't anticipate. I thought it would be most interesting to pop science fans and really nerdy home cooks. ... I didn’t really write it to be a recipe book, but some people use it that way, which is good.

     

     CM: What recipes are people finding most useful/surprising?

     

     KLA: A lot of people have mentioned they use my steak technique now. A lot of it is that whole chapter on quick-cooking meat. It really is sort of the ones I was expecting, the classic American dishes: steak, burgers, fried chicken.

     

    Potatoes au gratin is the most popular recipe. ... It's all that sort of comfort food. The stuff you don't eat every day but you want it to be really good when you do.

     

     CM: What recipes didn't make this book that you hope to publish in the next one?

     

     KLA: The book was originally 1,600 pages long. It was going to be two, 800-page volumes. We decided at the end to cut it down to one volume.

     

    It seemed a little too ambitious to publish two volumes for my first cookbook. ... The first book was mostly American. The second book is going to contain more things like Chinese food, Mexican — things that are familiar to Americans but come from a different part of the world. The second book will also have a lot of pizza.

     

     CM: Will you preview some of your pizza secrets?

     

     KLA: In the book, there are five different styles of pizza, and they're all unique. ... The overarching theme is how to make dough properly. I recommend a food processor or a no-knead method to a stand mixer, to produce superior flavor and texture.

     

     CM: You supported the Misen chef's knife Kickstarter. What are the criteria you use when deciding whether to endorse a product?

     

     KLA: Basically, people send me things all the time. Most of the time I either delete the email or I say thank you and find a way to give it away to someone. This was something that came across my door that looks better than most new knives I'd seen in terms of design. I used it for about a month, and it turns out it's a really great knife.

     

    One of the most popular articles I've ever done is picking a chef's knife. The difficult part with knives is it's easy to get a cheap knife, but cheap knives don't compare to a good quality knife. Most are $100 or more, a lot more. Finding a sweet spot between a good quality and price is something I'd been looking for. It hit the sweet spot.

     

     CM: Why did you choose breakfast foods for your class at Central Market?

     

     KLA: Every time I write about eggs, it ends up being one of the most popular articles I've written. There's something about eggs people love to read about. I also think it's the first kind of food most people learn to cook.

     

    They start out as a mucousy liquid. You can make them hard, you can make them custardy; they just have so many uses. It depends on the process. Even with just one egg, you can come up with different textures and process. For someone who's interested in process, eggs are a great ingredient.

     

     CM: Finally, Twitter user @NickSeam asks: If Jell-O can be a salad, why can't a hot dog be a sandwich?

     

     KLA: I wouldn't call Jell-O salads real salads (laughs). There is this sort of taxonomic question. If you come up with a sandwich of "sandwich," if you apply it to hot dogs, you find out a hot dog is a sandwich. If you ask most people, they'll say no fucking way [is a hot dog a sandwich].

     

    Rather than trying to force people to believe a hot dog is a sandwich, we need to find a new definition of sandwich.

    The Food Lab offers 1,000 pages of recipes and instruction.

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    Chef Crime

    Dallas chef Kent Rathbun issues reward for his trusty stolen smoker

    Teresa Gubbins
    Jul 26, 2025 | 3:00 pm
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    Kent Rathbun
    Chef Kent Rathbun's missing smoker

    A revered smoker trailer belonging to Dallas chef Kent Rathbun was stolen, and Rathbun is determined to get it back.

    Rathbun is the Beard Award-nominated chef and restaurateur whose resume includes The Mansion on Turtle Creek, Abacus, Jasper's, and his current company Kent Rathbun Catering.

    The stolen smoker was kept inside a gated parking lot at Rathbun's catering kitchen, located near Irving Boulevard and Mockingbird Lane, in an industrial area west of I-35.

    Rathbun says it was stolen somewhere between July 17 and July 21. The police have been notified and there's an effort underway to locate security footage.

    "I was out of town — we didn't have a lot of catering at the time," Rathbun says. "One of our chefs found the gate open — it looked like it had been damaged. But it wasn't until I went to pick up the trailer on Monday July 21 that we realized it was gone."

    The smoker has a colorful backstory: Rathbun got it as a gift from Baxter Brinkmann, CEO and president of The Brinkmann Corporation, manufacturer of outdoor living products including gas and charcoal grills, smokers, and solar/low-voltage landscape lighting.

    "He gave me this rig as a bithday present on the day of my first Taste of NFL at Abacus," Rathbun says. "The first year that we did the Taste of NFL [the annual tailgate party to support the North Texas Food Bank], I asked Brinker if he would supply smokers and grills for all the celebrity chefs coming in from around the country. I just needed a little grill but he offered the use of this 18-foot-long outfitted smoker."

    "He came to the party, and we were standing by it, appreciating how well it worked when somebody walked up and said 'happy birthday, chef'," Rathbun says. "Baxter said, 'It's your birthday? I want you to have the smoker. And as long as you keep my name on it, I will repair it, fix it, my team will take care of it.' He was like the team captain."

    That was in 2001 and over the years, the rig has received more than its share of custom upgrades, including metal laser-cut ID tags with "Chef Kent Rathbun" affixed to every door.

    "It is so personalized that I can walk up to that trailer and will be able to recognize it, no matter what modifications may be made," Rathbun says.

    That's also why he feels certain the theft is not an inside job, as some have suggested. "Anyone on our team knows what a distinctive smoker it is," he says.

    While not a secret, the location of his catering company is not open to the public and not generally well known. Someone driving by the location could have spotted the trailer in the parking lot, but it's on an industrial side street that does not draw a lot of random motorists. The trailer would have also required a truck to pull it.

    "The thing is 18 feet long, it's giant," he says. "It's not a toy, it's a tool, and we need it to stay in business."

    Rathbun posted a plea on social media offering a $1,000 reward — "and probably a good amount of barbecue," he says — to anyone who can provide information as to its whereabouts and was met with a wave of support, including offers to chip in $500 and even $1000 to the reward pool which is now at $8,500. (You can call Rathbun at 214-704-0907 with tips.)

    "Whether I get the trailer back or not, I've been overwhelmed by how many people have stepped up and offered their support," he says.

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