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The CultureMap Interview

Music legend Guy Clark talks songwriting, mentorship and the comforts of West Texas

Dixon Milner
Mar 13, 2013 | 8:30 am

Guy Clark is the type of songwriter who says it all in his songs. He doesn’t like to talk about himself and takes the process of writing lyrics seriously.

Born and raised in West Texas, Clark moved to Nashville in the early ’70s. He made career of writing songs for himself and other musicians, including “LA Freeway,” a song made famous by Jerry Jeff Walker.

Clark is also known for mentoring fellow songwriters Townes Van Zandt and Steve Earle, who played in the legendary “guitar pulls” at Clark’s Nashville residence.

“Everyone ought to help everyone,” Clark says. “[Music] is not a competitive sport.”

At 71, Clark's health is becoming an issue, and his wife, Susanna, passed away in 2012. Nevertheless, he continues to tour and has an album coming out soon. We recently caught up with Clark to discuss his songs, the state of country music and Texas.

CultureMap: What is your favorite place to play?

Guy Clark: Poor David's Pub is one of them for sure; I like the size of that room and the way it sounds.

CM: We heard that poetry was read aloud in your house growing up. Can you tell us about that?

GC: My parents were both extremely well-educated, and that was pre-TV. So after dinner we would sit around and read out loud — poems and all kinds of stuff. We were always encouraged in the arts.

CM: As a songwriter, a lot of musicians have covered your songs. What is your favorite cover of one of your songs?

GC: I wrote a song called "Desperados Waiting for a Train," and there was an old cowboy actor named Slim Pickens who did a spoken word version of that song. I thought it was spell binding.

CM: What's one song you wish you could've written?

GC: “To Live is to Fly” by Townes Van Zandt.

CM: What does it mean to you to have mentored so many great musicians?

GC: It's just the way I think it oughta be; everyone ought to help everyone. It's not a competitive sport. It's not something that shouldn't be shared.

CM: What's your take on the state of country music currently? What about other types of Americana or folk?

GC: It's just like any other time in history. Some of it's well written and some's not. It's the song; it doesn't matter what you frame it in. It matters if the song is good.

CM: Can you talk about your new album?

GC: It's all new songs; they're all co-written with friends of mine. Hopefully they're really good songs. I think they are, of course. I've played a couple live. That's one of the hardest things about songs is learning them. There are several I've performed, and a few I need to learn.

CM: Is “Let Him Roll” a true story? Will you be playing that song because it concerns Dallas?

GC: Not exactly. There's a certain amount of theatrical license that I take. The character's a real guy. But I think he was in Houston, not Dallas. The girl's from Dallas.

CM: How does a sense of place or home affect your songwriting?

GC: West Texas is my home. That's where I was born and kind of grew up. There's something about that part of the country that I find very comforting. I like the desert. I like the austerity of it. Tough part of the country to live in, but hell, I like it.

CM: Have you thought about moving back to Texas?

GC: Every day. It's hard to make a living in Texas.

CM: What direction would you like to see music go in?

GC: Better lyrics. I don't care if it's punk rock or folk music or traditional country, as long as it's good lyrics.

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Guy Clark plays March 15 and 16 at Poor David's Pub in Dallas.

Guy Clark has written songs for a plethora of country's most famous, including Rodney Crowell, The Highwaymen and David Allan Coe.

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RIP, Frank

Frank Beard, drummer of legendary Texas rock band ZZ Top, dies at 77

Associated Press
Aug 18, 2026 | 5:15 pm
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He kept the tempo for the band’s biggest hits like 'Sharp Dressed Man,' 'Legs,' and 'Gimme All Your Lovin.'

NEW YORK (AP) — Frank Beard, the drummer for the Texas boogie-rock trio ZZ Top who kept the tempo for the band’s biggest hits like “Sharp Dressed Man,” “Legs,” and “Gimme All Your Lovin,’” has died. He was 77.

Beard was in hospice care when he died Tuesday, August 18 at his ranch in Richmond, Texas, near Houston, with family members at his side, according to publicist Bob Merlis. Band co-founder and guitarist Billy Gibbons, on tour with bassist Elwood Francis, hailed Beard in a statement.

“Today, Elwood and I lost a great friend and collaborator, and the world lost one of the most naturally innovative drummers and a great and true son of Texas. His signature backbeat was key to keeping ZZ on top. The band of which he was part for six decades is going to keep on keeping on as he had wished,” Gibbons said.

ZZ Top sold more than 50 million records and had six singles that reached No. 1 on Billboard’s Mainstream Rock Airplay chart. Seven of their albums have been in the Billboard 200’s Top 10 and they earned three Grammy Award nominations.

“I’ve found the people I was meant to play with,” Beard says in the 2019 documentary ZZ Top: That Little Ol’ Band from Texas. “I never wanted to quit, and never wanted to get fired.”

Band's early days
Beard, from the East Texas town of Frankston, met Gibbons in a band called The Moving Sidewalks and later introduced bassist and vocalist Dusty Hill, a Dallas native, who had been in several bands with Beard.

The trio formed ZZ Top in 1969, naming themselves in part after blues singer Z.Z. Hill and influenced by the British power trio Cream and Jimmy Reed. They maintained their original lineup for more than five decades. Their signature look — long, bushy beards on Gibbons and Hill, and dark sunglasses for all — didn’t change much, either.

When Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards helped induct the trio into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2004, he joked: “These cats know their blues and they know how to dress it up. When I first saw them, I thought, ‘I hope these guys are not on the run, because that disguise is not going to work.’”

ZZ Top songs — with their sly and humorous lyrics — were popular in Hollywood, which used “Gimme All Your Lovin’” in “Happy Feet,” “Sharp Dressed Man” in “Evan Almighty,” “Legs” in “Air,” “Sleeping Bag” in “I, Tonya,” “Tush” in “Dazed and Confused,” “Mexican Blackbird” in “From Dusk Till Dawn” and “La Grange” in “Armageddon.”

“The best way to describe ZZ Top is we’re interpreters of a great American art form,” Gibbons told The Dallas Morning News.

Their debut release, “ZZ Top’s First Album,” came out in 1970. Their sound was described as a hybrid mixing elements of rock, blues and funk into a steaming-hot Houston stew. They called themselves a “Little Ol’ Band From Texas.”

Breaking through
Three years later, they broke through commercially with “La Grange,” a funky blues song on the album “Tres Hombres” that paid tribute to the Chicken Ranch, a brothel outside of the Texas town of La Grange that operated from 1905 until 1973 and was immortalized in the Broadway show and the film, “The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.” Gibbons has ascribed the power of “La Grange" to its simplicity — just two chords and a Robert Johnson-inspired guitar solo.

The band went on to have such hits as “Tush” and “Cheap Sunglasses.” But their 1983 “Eliminator” — named after one of Gibbons’ custom cars — added more production elements, synthesizers and drum machines to their stripped-down sound and yielded the hits “Gimme All Your Lovin’,” “Legs” and “Sharp-Dressed Man.” The band toured with a Texas-shaped stage, live rattlesnakes and a longhorn steer.

Long beards weren’t always part of the band’s look. Gibbons said it happened by accident: In 1976, the trio took a long break and scattered. Beard went to Jamaica, Hill went to Mexico and Gibbons went to France.

“Although we were speaking by phone, this was pre-video phone. And Dusty and I did not know that we had gotten so lazy that we had decided to forget to shave,” Gibbons told The Tribune in San Luis Obispo in 2010. “So after three years we returned and showed up, and lo and behold here was this sort of wacky-looking image. And it just kind of stuck with us.”

A boost from MTV
The band’s rock-chic cool played well on the nascent MTV crowd and their videos, featuring models in short skirts emerging from one of Gibbons’ custom roadsters, became a mainstay.

They kept the beards, hats and cheap sunglasses in the video trilogy of “Gimme All Your Lovin’,” “Sharp Dressed Man,” and “Legs,” made with director Tim Newman.

“ZZ Top reveled in the humor and ridiculousness of it all, busting their synchronized dance moves and spinning their white-fur guitars. These guys always got the joke, at a time when other bands were still just nervously lip-syncing in front of brick walls,” Rolling Stone said in 2021.

In 2012, superstar producer Rick Rubin helped update the trio’s sound with the band’s comeback album, “La Futura.” The album landed at No. 6 on the Billboard chart, their highest position since 1990's “Recycler,” some 22 years previously.

Hill died in 2021.

In March 2025, the band announced via Instagram that Beard would temporarily step away from the band’s tour to tend to foot and ankle problems. Beard died weeks after ZZ Top called off its August 5 concert at the Hollywood Bowl due to his health issues.

Beard is survived by his wife, Debbie Meredith, and three children.

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