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    Pizza News

    Buzzy Dallas startup specializes in crispy cheesy Detroit-style pizza

    Teresa Gubbins
    Jul 27, 2020 | 4:55 pm
    8 Mile Pies Detroit pizza
    Those crispy cheesy edges.
    Photo by 8 Mile

    Dallas' pizza scene keeps getting bigger and better, and now there's a cool startup bringing a new slice.

    Called 8 Mile Pies, it's a delivery-only operation that specializes in the unique square pizza that's a signature of Detroit. 8 Mile founder Christopher "Phanzy" Phan is seriously into Detroit-style pizza. In fact, nevermind "style," he says — it's Detroit pizza, end of story.

    "This is a Detroit pie," he says. "It's not made there but it's exactly what you'd get if you went to Detroit right now."

    Detroit pizza's key traits include:

    • a square shape
    • a thick, crunchy airy crust
    • baked-in cheese on the rim of the pizza that creates a super crispy cheesy edge

    Phanzy, who worked at pizzerias throughout college, became enchanted after visiting famed Austin shop Via 313, and began making Detroit pizza at home.

    "What I make is not as deep as Chicago-style pizza, it's very much like a Sicilian-style pizza, what they call a 'grandma' pie," he says. "I would make these grandma pies for friends, and people started saying, 'Maybe you should sell this.'"

    [Pizza note: Sicilian and grandma pies both have squared edges. Both are baked in a pan, and both are crunchy on the bottom. Sicilian originated in Sicily and has a light, airy crust, similar to focaccia. Grandma originated in New York and is flatter and not as airy.]

    Phanzy goes to great lengths to procure ingredients that appear in a true Detroit pie.

    "That means shredded Wisconsin mozzarella and Wisconsin brick cheese, and I use either Stanislaus or Bianco DiNapoli tomatoes to make fresh tomato sauce," he says. "Sometimes I bake it with the sauce, but I've also tried adding it after it comes out of the oven. It looks very pretty."

    The most distinguishing element of Detroit-style pizza is the way the cheese goes right up to the edge of the pie and forms a crisp, melted-cheese crust.

    "It's cooked in a steel pan so it gets crispy on the edge," he says. "It almost looks burned. But when you bite into that crisped edge, it wins over people who don't like crust on pizza."

    After he launched, his pizzas started showing up on Instagram, where he got a high-5 from hip restaurant Ulam Modern Filipino Kitchen. Suddenly 8 Mile was off and running.

    Phanzy makes 50 pies each weekend. In these post-COVID times, ordering takes place online.

    "We post the menu every Wednesday at 8 pm on Facebook and Instagram, and it's a frenzy for about a half hour until we sell out," he says.

    He usually makes five options.

    • There is almost always a "pepperoni cup," topped with natural casing pepperonis which form delectable little cups with crisped edges as the pizza bakes.
    • There is often a white pie topped with something novel and upscale such as kale and Italian sausage, or artichoke and spinach.

    His pies are $15 for the pepperoni or $17 for "fancy" flavors such as the one called Nonna, which he just introduced: It's a grandma style with fresh bufala mozzarella, and fresh basil and herbs. "We try to come up with something new every week," he says.

    The pizza is ready for pickup on Friday or Saturday night in the Oak Lawn neighborhood, where Phanzy lives.

    He's looking to partner with vendors who don't typically open at night such as a bakery or coffee shop.

    "Everything we make, I invest right back into the business," he says. "We're ready to scale up with a proper oven and down the road, a place where we can have a brick & mortar space."

    If you know your Detroit culture, you know that 8 Mile was a 2002 Eminem film named for the border around Detroit. "We wanted to have a name people recognized, and something that said 'Detroit,'" he says.

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    Bar News

    Rodeo Dallas bar takes party to Uptown Dallas at new location

    Alex Gonzalez
    Nov 28, 2025 | 4:26 pm
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    Rodeo bar is open in Uptown

    A bar with Deep Ellum roots is expanding to Uptown Dallas: Called Rodeo Dallas, it'll open at 2922 N. Hall St. in the space previously occupied by Palms Bar. According to co-owner Joseph "JD" Ybanez, it'll open on November 28.

    The first Rodeo location in Dallas opened in 2023 at 2724 Elm St. from Ybanez and partner Josh Reagan, a pair of hospitality veterans whose prior venues include Longshots in Dallas, plus two locations of Varsity Tavern, in Fort Worth and in Tempe.

    Ybanez' first bar was Trophy Ranch in Fort Worth which had a mechanical bull. "That's where I learned how popular it was," he says. (He also became familiar with Fort Worth's bar scene and went on to open a Rodeo spinoff in Fort Worth's West Seventh district in 2024.)

    In August 2025, the Deep Ellum location became the focal point of neighborhood concerns about crime and was closed via an order from the Dallas city attorney. Ybanez says the city is scapegoating Rodeo for other problems in the neighborhood, and that the Deep Ellum location isn't going anywhere.

    “This is not a relocation,” he says. “We maintain an ongoing legal dispute with our landlord Asana Partners regarding the re-opening of our Deep Ellum establishment. The Uptown location represents an expansion of the brand.”

    Prior to opening Rodeo in Deep Ellum, they opened a predecessor in Tempe in 2018, called Rodeo Ranch. It served as a template for the concept, with an "adult playground" with mechanical bull, bottle service, girls in bikinis, DJs, dancing, and light show.

    According to Ybanez, visitors to the Uptown location can expect to take these factors to the next level.

    “The Uptown space offers an expansive back patio,” Ybanez says. “This area will feature a massive video wall, optimizing it for communal sports viewing. Furthermore, we have executed a comprehensive refinement of our food menu, which we are confident will elevate the guest experience."

    The menu is rendered by Donde Los Tacos, the highly regarded Mexican taqueria in Oak Clifff, with $3 and $4 tacos, like trompo, barbacoa, and suadero. The Uptown location will also serve brunch with dishes such as chilaquiles.

    "We have meticulously preserved the core of the Rodeo experience: the unparalleled atmosphere and vibes, our commitment to genuine hospitality, the homegrown character of the brand, and the inclusive spirit that welcomes every member of the community," Ybanez says.

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