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    AC2 Live

    Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper promise deep talk and shallow thoughts at Dallas show

    Kaitlin Steinberg
    Nov 27, 2017 | 12:16 pm
    Anderson Cooper, Andy Cohen
    Anderson and Andy have been friends for years.
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    Bravo and CNN might not generally attract the same audiences, but watch one episode of Real Housewives, and you might find some parallels between the melodrama of a birthday party and the high drama of a political party.

    That’s what Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper are counting on when they bring their live show, AC2: Deep Talk and Shallow Tales, to the Pavilion at Toyota Music Factory on Friday night, followed by a presentation Saturday in Houston; tickets are available through Ticketmaster.

    Cohen is the host of Bravo's Watch What Happens Live and the executive producer of the Real Housewives franchises, while Cooper is anchor of Anderson Cooper 360° on CNN and a correspondent for 60 Minutes. As far as Cohen is concerned, though, their jobs aren’t that different: “It’s all wrangling people.”

    In their live show, the two television personalities essentially interview each other, show video clips not always suitable for television, and take questions from the audience. This has proven to be the ideal recipe for an evening of laughter and debauchery peppered with personal anecdotes about the duo’s decades-long bromance.

    We caught up with Cohen ahead of his visit to Dallas to find out more about the show, his friendship with Cooper and, of course, The Real Housewives of Dallas.

    CultureMap: How did you and Anderson Cooper meet and become buddies?

    Andy Cohen: We were set up on a blind date in the early ‘90s, but it didn’t happen. He said I was gesticulating too wildly on the phone, and I brought up his mother [heiress Gloria Vanderbilt], which he didn’t like. We would run into each other and see each other around, and we have mutual friends. We would end up going on a lot of vacations together, and for a long period of time, we would only see each other on vacation. We just got closer as the years went by, and, specifically in the last 10 or 15 years, have become great, great friends.

    CM: What was the idea behind the show? How did you pitch it to producers and audiences initially?

    AC: Basically, we didn’t have to. He interviewed me at a theater in New York promoting my second book, and his agent at the time represented Bill O’Reilly, who has been on tour with Dennis Miller for many years, doing this kind of conversation series. She said, gosh, your chemistry is so great, you should come up with some kind of a stage show conversation, and let’s tour with it. So, they set up a test date in Boston and it sold out very quickly, and people seemed to like it. The show has just evolved since then. It’s almost been three years that we’ve been doing this now.

    CM: How has it changed since its inception?

    AC: We’ve changed stories, we’ve changed some of the video clips. We’re better at it. Anderson is way looser. I think the big logline is how funny he is.

    CM: Has the current political climate changed the tenor of the show?

    AC: Not really. It’s not a political show. I do like to rib him that the presidential debates were a lot like Housewives reunions, so that’s something we talk about a little bit, but it’s really not a political show. It’s just fun and funny and a lot of dishy stories. It’s like being out at a bar with me and Anderson for a couple hours.

    CM: How are you and Anderson Cooper different?

    AC: He’s more reserved, I’m way more outgoing and social. He’s a catastrophist, I’m an optimist. He’s moody, I’m just happy!

    CM: Would he agree with that assessment?

    AC: Oh, I think so. All of it.

    CM: Do you think you each attract different audiences to the show?

    AC: Yeah, but I think within the same family. Maybe cousins?

    CM: What should audiences expect from your shows in Texas?

    AC: Our show is kind of set, and it also evolves. It’s things we know we’re talking about, and it’s off the cuff. We also open it up to questions at the end, and nothing’s off limits, so the vibe of the show is partly set by the audience. I have a lot of friends in Dallas who are coming to the show, and then Houston we’re both really excited to come to. I don’t really know anyone in Houston. I was there once as the grand marshal in the gay pride parade years ago, and I just loved it. I’m excited.

    CM: Can we expect any juicy stories about the Dallas housewives?

    AC: All of the Dallas housewives are coming to the Dallas show. They’re all invited, and they’re all coming, so I’m excited about that.

    CM: How do you go about choosing the ladies who star on shows like RHOD or Married to Medicine Houston?

    AC: I have nothing to do with M2MH, so I can’t take any credit for that one, but for Dallas, we have casting directors who go out and look for groups of friends, people in the same social circles. LeeAnne brought in D’Andra, and Kameron knew Cary, so now it’s about finding women who fit in the circle and having the other women bring them in.

    CM: We’re gonna be honest and say we didn’t love the first season of RHOD. But we thought this second season was so much better.

    AC: Yeah, we all did.

    CM: What do you think made this season better?

    AC: Well, season one, we weren’t sure if it was gonna be a Real Housewives or not when we were shooting. At first, we were really gonna focus on women who were involved in charities, so just the nature of the stories that we were looking to tell changed while we were shooting it and in post-production. So, that’s difficult, but the women were great both times. It was nothing they did.

    CM: Any plans for additional Texas-based shows?

    AC: I only executive produce the Housewives on Bravo. I used to be in charge of all programming, and I’m just not anymore.

    CM: Well, might we recommend a Southern Charm: Austin and a Real Housewives of Corpus Christi? Could you pass those along?

    AC: Interesting, interesting. OK, I’ll take those in.

    CM: So. You’re coming to Texas. Have you ever had a breakfast taco?

    AC: I have not.

    CM: We think you need to eat one while you’re here.

    AC: I do, too! We just can’t wait to come. We’ve been really looking forward to this, and we keep asking, “When are we going to Texas?” So we’re really excited.

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    Movie Review

    Film sequel Avatar: Fire and Ash is a technical and visual feast

    Alex Bentley
    Dec 18, 2025 | 3:15 pm
    Oona Chaplin in Avatar: Fire and Ash
    Photo courtesy of 20th Century Studios
    Oona Chaplin in Avatar: Fire and Ash.

    For a series whose first two films made over $5 billion combined worldwide, Avatar has a curious lack of widespread cultural impact. The films seem to exist in a sort of vacuum, popping up for their run in theaters and then almost as quickly disappearing from the larger movie landscape. The third of five planned movies, Avatar: Fire and Ash, is finally being released three years after its predecessor, Avatar: The Way of Water.

    The new film finds the main duo, human-turned-Na’vi Jake Sully (Sam Worthington) and his native Na’vi wife, Neytiri (Zoë Saldaña), still living with the water-loving Metkayina clan led by Ronal (Kate Winslet) and Tonowari (Cliff Curtis). While Jake and Neytiri still play a big part, the focus shifts significantly to their two surviving children, Lo’ak (Britain Dalton) and Tuk (Trinity Jo-Li Bliss), as well as two they’ve essentially adopted, Kiri (Sigourney Weaver) and Spider (Jack Champion).

    Miles Quaritch (Stephen Lang), who lives on in a fabricated Na’vi body, is still looking for revenge on Jake, and he finds help in the form of the Mangkwan Clan (aka the Ash People), led by Varang (Oona Chaplin). Quaritch’s access to human weapons and the Mangkwan’s desire for more power on the moon known as Pandora make them a nice match, and they team up to try to dominate the other tribes.

    Aside from the story, the main point of making the films for writer/director James Cameron is showing off his considerable technical filmmaking prowess, and that is on full display right from the start. The characters zoom around both the air and sea on various creatures with which they’ve bonded, providing Cameron and his team with plenty of opportunities to put the audience right there with them. Cameron’s preferred viewing method of 3D makes the experience even more immersive, even if the high frame rate he uses makes some scenes look too realistic for their own good.

    The story, as it has been in the first two films, is a mixed bag. Cameron and co-writers Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver start off well, having Jake, Neytiri, and their kids continue mourning the death of Neteyam (Jamie Flatters) in the previous film. The struggle for power provides an interesting setup, but Cameron and his team seem to drag out the conflict for much too long. This is the longest Avatar film yet, and you really start to feel it in the back half as the filmmakers add on a bunch of unnecessary elements.

    Worse than the elongated story, though, is the hackneyed dialogue that Cameron, Jaffa, and Silver have come up with. Almost every main character is forced to spout lines that diminish the importance of the events around them. The writers seemingly couldn’t resist trying to throw in jokes despite them clashing with the tone of the scenes in which they’re said. Combined with the somewhat goofy nature of the Na’vi themselves (not to mention talking whales), the eye-rolling words detract from any excitement or emotion the story builds up.

    A pre-movie behind-the-scenes short film shows how the actors act out every scene in performance capture suits, lending an authenticity to their performances. Still, some performers are better than others, with Saldaña, Worthington, and Lang standing out. It’s more than a little weird having Weaver play a 14-year-old girl, but it works relatively well. Those who actually get to show their real faces are collectively fine, but none of them elevate the film overall.

    There are undoubtedly some Avatar superfans for which Fire and Ash will move the larger story forward in significant ways. For anyone else, though, the film is a demonstration of both the good and bad sides of Cameron. As he’s proven for 40 years, his visuals are (almost) beyond reproach, but the lack of a story that sticks with you long after you’ve left the theater keeps the film from being truly memorable.

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    Avatar: Fire and Ash opens in theaters on December 19.

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