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Wine and Dine

Cheese Twins' top 3 tips for Dallas diners on pairing cheese and wine

Teresa Gubbins
Aug 10, 2017 | 9:00 am
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The Cheese Twins are actual twins in real life.
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If you keep up with cheese, or TV food shows, or even just twins, then you may be familiar with the Cheese Twins. Real-life twin brothers Michael and Charlie Kalish preach about cheese, whether on Food Network or at food festivals such as Savor Dallas.

Thanks to a consulting relationship with the dairy industry and a partnership with Meiomi Wines, the twins are spending their time offering tips on cheese plates and wine pairings. The advice feels timely, given the current popularity of charcuterie and cheese plates at restaurants such as Americano, Blind Butcher, and Veritas Wine Bar, but the twins have been into cheese for a while.

"Our background is in cheese making, we spent our 20s making cheese," Michael says. "We're very active in the cheese industry. Pairing wines is a way to amplify the eating and drinking experience to bring two wonderful things together."

You might not think that assembling a cheese plate is all that complicated. Put cheese on a plate. But Michael says they have a strategy.

"You start with a lighter body cheese that's not too taxing on the tastebuds, then move towards a more full-bodied, more robust cheese," he says. "A blue cheese is a fairly strong cheese compared to a triple cream. You go from light to strong. And it's the same thing with wine. The pairings should match one another."

Other factors that you may not have ever considered in your cheese ruminations include texture and visual properties.

"You can go from spreadable cheese to a cheese with more shape and then something more firm," Charlie says. "You can consider different flavors, textures, and colors. A blue versus a creamy pale white. By coloring up the cheese board, it's tantalizing just to look at."

Even with their cheese background, some flavor discoveries take them by surprise.

"I had an old piece of Parmesan stuck in the refrigerator that I normally used to grate over pasta," Charlie says. "But I cut it up and ate it with pinot, and it brought out these flavors of cream soda. When you age cheeses, you get these caramel notes, especially in cheddar. But to pull that out of Parmesan, it was one of those blow-you-away pairings."

Meiomi is one of the bigger recent success stories in wine. It was founded by Joseph Wagner, who is part of the Caymus Vineyards family, and became big quickly after making a well-rated affordable Pinot Noir. After only five years, Meiomi was acquired by Constellation Brands, which also owns Robert Mondavi, Estancia, Ravenswood, Mark West, Corona beer, Casa Noble tequila, and more. Meiomi now makes three wines, all for around $25: Pinot Noir, Chardonnay, and a recently introduced Rose.

"Chardonnay has a nice luscious mouthfeel, with a little oak and a little vanilla," Michael says. "It goes well with cheeses that are similar, like a fresh farmers cheese or cheddar. Anything that's fudgy and creamy like the Chardonnay."

They started the Cheese Twins thing out of a little apartment in San Francisco, after returning from stints working in Europe. By 2012, they began making fun little videos. They were in the right time and place, having witnessed artisan cheese go through a renaissance.

"We're seeing a booming interest in cheese," Charlie says. "We play an active role in the American Cheese Society and they have seen incredible growth over the last five to 10 years. The membership numbers have risen, and so have the number of artisan cheeses that are produced. That's what we're seeing in so many cities around the U.S."

That includes Scardello in Dallas, Antonelli's in Austin, Gourmage in New Braunfels, and Houston Dairymaids in Houston.

"The last time we were in Dallas, we went for a tasting at Scardello with the owner, Rich Rogers," Michael says. "If I recall, they had more than 100 types of cheese. And we also met some people who let us have a sample of what they had ordered. There's something social about it and you get to explore new things."

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Spring Arrival

West Dallas gets new Spanish-Peruvian restaurant with big-name chef

Luciana Gomez
Sep 18, 2026 | 4:27 pm
Ulloa's
Photo courtesy of Ulloa's
Paella will be on the menu.

A new restaurant with a high-profile culinary director will bring Spanish and Peruvian flavors to West Dallas: Called Ulloa’s, it is coming to 727 Fort Worth Ave., with a projected opening in March 2027.

The concept is from philanthropists Susan and Woodrow Gandy, who were previously investors in the historic Belmont Hotel just around the corner. They've teamed up with Dallas celebrity chef Kent Rathbun as culinary director, along with Christopher Tunnell as general manager to lead the front of the house.

Rathbun is a name Dallas diners know well, with a resume that includes The Mansion on Turtle Creek, the Landmark Restaurant at the historic Melrose Hotel, Seventeen Seventeen at the Dallas Museum of Art, Abacus, Jasper's, Rathbun’s Blue Plate Kitchen, and more. He's won numerous awards and made multiple appearances on Food Network. He was most recently behind the launch of On The Rocks, an Italian bistro in Burleson.

Kent Rathbun Chef Kent Rathbun will be the culinary director of Ulloa's. Photo courtesy of Kent Rathbun

Tunnell’s background spans both culinary direction and front-of-house operations. He worked at Los Angeles hot spots Ketchup, Geisha House, and Les Deux, as well as the Mandalay Bay and The Mirage in Las Vegas, before moving to Dallas to open The Mexican, the upscale restaurant in the Design District.

“I am truly excited to partner with Chef Kent Rathbun, whose reputation is amazing — not only in the DFW Metroplex, but in the culinary world,” Tunnell says. “He has been with this project since the beginning, helping develop it; this will be a very chef-driven, culinary-forward restaurant.”

The team's vision for Ulloa’s is both culinary and urban, with hopes of anchoring the corridor and attracting other businesses to Fort Worth Avenue — a stretch connecting downtown Dallas with Oak Cliff that remains somewhat underdeveloped despite its panoramic skyline views.

The restaurant is named for Spanish explorer, astronomer, and scientist Antonio de Ulloa, who spent extensive time in the Mexican peninsula before becoming Louisiana’s first governor. During his travels, Ulloa documented a fogbow — a circular rainbow formed when sunlight meets mist that causes silhouettes standing between the sun and fog to appear ringed in light, a phenomenon known today as “Ulloa’s Rings.”

That vibrant phenomenon inspired both the restaurant's identity and logo. The concept promises "bold, worldly flavors in a welcoming neighborhood setting inspired by exploration and discovery,” the owners say.

Ulloa's Rendering of Ulloa's.Rendering courtesy of Ulloa's

While the menu remains in development, Tunnell describes the culinary direction as “Spanish soul with a Peruvian heart.” The kitchen will merge the coastal flavors of both traditions — ranging from paellas and ceviches to crafted cocktails and signature adaptations by Rathbun.

The 200-seat, two-story space will feature a downstairs dining room, a large bar, and an outdoor patio. Upstairs, plans call for a secondary bar, a private dining room, a patio, and an expansive balcony patio, offering views of the city's skyline and of the Margaret Hunt Hill and Margaret McDermott bridges.

While the upstairs space will be available for private events, the owners intend for it to operate primarily as an organic extension of the main restaurant. The buildout will include a guest elevator along with ample parking, including both self-parking and valet options.

The team says the restaurant will have have an aesthetic that's “warm, theatrical, generous, elegant but alive, with the energy of a great Spanish tapas bar and the soul of Peruvian hospitality.”

Ulloa’s plans to launch with dinner service first, followed by lunch and weekend brunch.

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