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    The CultureMap Interview

    Dallas band The O's talk touring, hometown songs and sweating at Double Wide

    Dixon Milner
    Apr 18, 2013 | 12:15 pm

    Local duo The O’s thrives on an air of mystery, blending bluegrass sounds with indie vocals and pop-song structures. There may only be two of them — Taylor Young and John Pedigo — but they play all the instruments heard on their records.

    Formed in 2008, the band has released three albums (including the latest, Thunderdog, on April 16) and toured around the world. They are very connected to all things Dallas, from the music scene to charity events to appearances on local sports radio station the Ticket. Clearly they love the city and feel the city’s love in return.

    The O’s continue developing their sound on Thunderdog, which they celebrate April 19 at the Granada Theater. Unfamiliar listeners should check out “Outlaw” and “Dallas” off the new album and “We’ll Go Walkin” and “Tennessee Coalminer” from their second album, Between the Two.

    Recently we spoke with Young and Pedigo about their third album, touring the country and the world, and songs about Dallas.

    CultureMap: What kind of music would you say y’all play? Would you call it bluegrass?

    The O’s: It’s technically not bluegrass; technically we play pop songs. We play pop songs with an acoustic guitar and a banjo. And some other instruments, like drums, so that’s not bluegrass.

    CM: How did you get into the bluegrass sound or instruments?

    John Pedigo: I’ve been playing rockabilly country forever, and I was heading in that way, anyway. At the time I wanted to go a little quieter, and it all seemed to kinda fall together.

    Taylor Young: I was a drummer for 15 years prior and was just learning guitar. We were drinking beers, and John threatened to buy a banjo. We started throwing songs at each other.

    CM: What’s it like playing bluegrass-sounding pop music in Texas?

    The O’s: There's a broad section of music that melds together in Dallas. One second we can be at Adair's, and we'll know the band. Then we'll go to Double Wide, and it'll be a punk band. We like that.

    We still don't really know what kind of music we play. Sometimes we are an indie band with fiddles; sometimes we are the bluegrass band at a country show. We are from Dallas, Texas, so we have all the Texan tendencies, but for indie rock shows, we are just the twangy band. At a country show we're the emo band.

    CM: Where did your name come from?

    The O’s: We were out cocktailing one night, and we decided to start this band since [Pedigo] had ordered a banjo. We needed a band name, and we sat at Vickery Park until a band name came to us. That was from 6 pm to 2 am. Then we enjoyed some to-go tacos.

    The best part is that everyone has their own idea of where that name comes from. We like to keep some mystery in it. Lots of people try to guess what it means. We are both type O blood; that's the only logical guess. One guess was that it was short for potatoes, and that the "potate" was silent.

    CM: What’s your favorite venue to play?

    The O’s: Outside of Dallas, it’s Pappy and Harriet's in Pioneer Town, California, near Joshua Tree. It’s a movie set city that Gene Autry used to use. It’s an Old West town slash façade, but there's a bowling alley and shops. It has one of those long old sand main streets. Right around the corner there's this great club with awesome food and great people. A lot of bands play that place.

    As far as locally, for a smaller venue, we like Double Wide. It you want to get drunk, sweaty and loud, then it’s for you. For a larger venue, it would be the Granada, specifically on April 19, for our record release party.

    CM: Why do you play so many shows in Europe?

    The O’s: At the beginning of the band we realized the importance of festivals and getting in front of a lot of enthusiastic music fans at one time and how big a part of the culture that is in Europe and the UK. So that was a big goal of ours. In 2009, we got on the Internet and started booking shows and met a lot of people. Now we have the most amazing friends over there who help book that stuff now. We are going back over in June, to play a couple of festivals.

    CM: Why do you list Oak Cliff and Dallas separately on the tour schedule?

    The O’s: Oak Cliff is its own thing, not bad or good. The Kessler isn't part of Dallas; it's in Oak Cliff. We have the mighty river separating us and Oak Cliff. It also houses the greatest hamburger around: Wingfield's.

    CM: What was it like to fund an album via Kickstarter?

    The O’s: Humbling. We did want to do right by the Kickstarter backers. It gave us an edge to writing. If we had that many people that believed in us making this third album, then that was hundreds of people we didn't want to let down. Kickstarter was so new to us that through the process we learned about Kickstarter [laughs].

    We don't do everything for everyone else, but we did want to do a good job. It was better than a label that's going to recoup money from us.

    CM: On the new album you have a song about Dallas. There aren’t that many songs about Dallas. Was that important for you to write?

    The O’s: A really awesome blues guitarist listened to it. He was going on with songs about Dallas, and this was the first positive one he'd heard. That song is definitely a positive song about Dallas.

    From all our traveling around the world and around Texas and around the nation, people have opinions about the cities of Texas and where the music comes from. People have a lot of opinions about Dallas, and we want to let them know how we feel about Dallas. We consider ourselves the ambassadors of Dallas. We try to get free stuff from that.

    CM: What influences do you have, in your beginning or more recently?

    TY: I’m listening to Cat Stevens for the first time in my life, and he's kind of blowing my mind.

    JP: My first real influence was the Pixies. The first album I got myself was Bossanova, and that inspired me to play music. And then I got into unusual stuff, then grunge, then rockabilly, and then it led to this.

    TY: My go-to album is Rendezvous by Luna. And the first two The O's albums.

    CM: Is there anything else you wanted to cover or wanted fans to know?

    JP: I wear a 32 waist jeans. And a 10.5 EE size boot.

    TY: I'm 9.5 EE in boots, if any sponsors are reading this. I like movies, and I like badass Oreo cake balls. We’ll have those at the show. And we'll also have brand-new T-shirts for sale.

    We’ve been doing this interview from our parked car. I've never sat at the corner of Greenville and Lovers this long. Lotta hots. This is the corner of hot.

    Young and Pedigo play all the instruments on their albums.

    The O's
    Photo by Brian K. Ullrich
    Young and Pedigo play all the instruments on their albums.
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    Animal News

    Latest animal to die at Dallas Zoo is young male gorilla named Zola

    Teresa Gubbins
    Nov 7, 2025 | 7:24 pm
    Zola RIP
    Dallas Zoo
    Zola RIP

    Another animal at the Dallas Zoo has died an untimely death: Zola, a young Western lowland gorilla, died on Wednesday, November 5, at age 23.

    The zoo does not know why Zola died. A necropsy will be performed. According to their post, Zola was euthanized after showing symptoms of lethargy, reduced appetite, and signs of discomfort at the end of October.

    "Unfortunately, he wasn’t able to begin breathing on his own afterward, despite the extraordinary efforts of our veterinary and animal care teams," their post says. "With his comfort as our priority, we made the difficult decision to let him go peacefully."

    The zoo did not announce the death immediately, instead waiting two days until Friday afternoon at 3 pm. Politicians and government agencies prefer to choose Friday afternoons to post news that is negative or controversial, since fewer people, and definitely fewer journalists, are online on Friday afternoons. It's called the "Friday news dump."

    The death is very inconvenient for the Dallas Zoo since they were just about to ship off their male gorillas, which also include Shana, Zola, and B’Wenzi, to the San Antonio Zoo. Animals are very dear to the zoo — until it's time to ship them off to another zoo. Other gorillas will be shipped in to replace them — although we do not know which gorillas and from where. True to form, the Association of Zoos & Aquariums only divulges that kind of intel on a "need to know" basis. Right now, you and I do not need to know.

    The relocation of the other three male gorillas is "temporarily on hold" but the zoo says they will be moved "when the time is right."

    Zola was born at the Bronx Zoo in 2002 and became internet famous as the "breakdancing gorilla" for splashing in pools and puddles. Some animal experts attributed his actions to frustration at being locked inside a zoo. He was relocated to the Calgary Zoo in 2009, but did not integrate well and was then moved to the Dallas Zoo in 2013. Shana is his "half-brother."

    Death count
    Zola's death is one more in a long-running series of deaths at the zoo in recent years, the most previous being Jata, a 7-year-old painted dog who died in June 2024. Jata also showed signs of lethargy and decreased appetite, reportedly due to kidney disease.

    Zola the Western lowland gorilla joins this death march of animals at the Dallas Zoo:

    • Jata, one of the zoo's three African painted dogs, died in June 2024, at seven years old.
    • Ferrell, a 15-year-old giraffe, died in December, 2023, following "an unexpected fall in the barn" that injured the giraffe's jaw so badly, they were forced to euthanize him.
    • Ajabu, a 6-year-old African elephant who died on May 8, 2023, from the herpes virus.
    • Pin, a 35-year-old lappet-faced vulture, died on January 22, 2023, cause unknown.
    • Jesse, a 14-year-old giraffe, died on October 29, 2021, cause unknown.
    • Auggie, a 19-year-old giraffe, died in late October 2021 of liver failure.
    • Marekani, a 3-month-old baby giraffe, sustained a mysterious injury and was euthanized on October 3, 2021.
    • Kirk, a 31-year-old chimpanzee, died in August 2021 due to "surprise" heart disease.
    • Keeya, a 6-year-old Hartmann's mountain zebra, died in March 2021 due to a mysterious unexplained head injury.
    • Subira, a 24-year-old silverback gorilla, died suddenly in March 2020, due to a cough, or maybe cardiovascular disease. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    • Hope, a 23-year-old Western lowland gorilla, died suddenly in November 2019 after being at the zoo for only two years.
    • Ola, an 8-year-old female African painted dog, was killed in July 2019 by two other painted dogs, less than a month after she was transferred to the zoo.
    • Witten, a 1-year-old giraffe, died in June 2019 during a physical exam under anesthesia when he suddenly stopped breathing.
    • Adhama, a baby hippopotamus, mysteriously died in 2018.
    • Kipenzi, a baby giraffe, died in 2015 after running in her enclosure.
    • Kamau, a young cheetah, died of pneumonia in 2014.
    • Johari, a female lion, was killed in front of zoo spectators in 2013 by male lions with whom she shared an enclosure.

    And in February 2021, they lost a crow called Onyx who was part of their "animal ambassador team," "participating in a training session" for a bird show. He was never found.

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